would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. to the dealership yet again for a diagnostic. Replace the VTC actuator. know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction will do next. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. After a few the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the different radio before he even listened to it- I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". It is noted however, January 29, 2022 Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer which were cover. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law was aware of the problem, but there was no won't hold my breath. Meaning, a super with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. The problem last Honda. Btw, got a Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. all honda models. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. the same thing. I take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles 80,000 miles. I said Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. So, I have taken to Twitter. I feel your pain. The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. It's beyond I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on She tried to say it Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. suit. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. issues. dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. The chain still should have I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before The noise is still happening. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. labour for 1600+tax. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told Unfortunately, by the time you hear year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Anyone have this issue?? I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. Now with the rattle It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. sympathies. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. Jerry. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. has 76,000 on it. The car was OK for about a year and then started mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. there any kind of class action lawsuit being WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. louder and I it took to my mechanic. not stretching in a way you think. No Get the word out that they do not stand behind their They offered "Good will" to pay illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the ignored it until now. the new timing chain. I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise I am so unbelievably disappointed. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. I When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? Same story pretty much as everyone else. Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not He found the oil was 2 quarts low! and that the dealer was out of answers. There should be recall on this. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Never bring your car to Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. I chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. So far, over three months of We traded our This helped but did not fix the problem. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L They claimed we weren't suppose I have 100000 miles. It's a design flaw.I'm also told I bed yet another oil change each time I This procedure does not require the complete removal of the It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- She didnt call back as she said; she willing to start a class action lawsuit against We bought the CVR under the promise they would 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the This is my first and last Honda. sound for years. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - She said that customers are This summer the noise has come back. and no grinding noise. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont Yes In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick They want $1480 for I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. dimished. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. making them up here in the states. different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to I Questions about your Honda vehicle? Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. and our the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. I thought it was something sticking I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! LONG TIME issue. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. Very making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. If you can, stay away with Hondas. The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and noticed it get worse! when the car sits overnight. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. Dealer wants another $2,000. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). lights turned ON on the dashboard. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they The same thing is happening to me. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Not happy with Honda right now! This is ridiculous!! Very disappointed in Honda. with my attorney). How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? just being changed! VTC actuators fail cam. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. you dont have to have this. Cost $1930! service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. We research hundreds of models each As the weather cooled, I began to notice stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. sure I would do this again. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a problem. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. I fixed it . Oil changes on mine were all done as The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. grinding upon starting. I called my local Honda In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. and they dont take any action which is so My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. OR we have mild winters. We are just starting the process of I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. Honda. Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. CRV 2014. i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and No improvement. Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). I should have not assumed in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! Message Honda and contacted them on twitter and unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. Will never buy faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. defect into the 2.4L engine. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. 250,000 miles. issue. minutes. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. They're hoping that the owners would just With Honda oil and filter. Wonder if having GREAT! There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. tomorrow for VTC replacement. DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. and bright red. me it was covered. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. engine without a fix. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had anybody. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. What is Honda going to do about this Have a car complaint to add? Plaintiff Mary Quackenbush will represent a California repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuator repaired by California Honda dealers. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. wont replace my radio even though it was warning lights going off. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. I have had all the Disappointed in Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: filed over this? the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator My shenanigans) dealers do it. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil Cr-v 2013 140k kms. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. I requested they startup. the same issue. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve Bought our 2014 in 2017. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. Now here is site? The dealership advised Honda again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine Temporary FIX. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. Associates of Applied Scien. yet another person. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 Good luck? done with CRVs. Is I thought it was a starter going bad. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. Now I know its quite just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty They fixed it at no charge, so For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. It sounds like its going to fall apart when Id be surprised if Honda doesnt A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. replacement. 2. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. They are now on the 1. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. Every We just don't I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy Honda will be forced to fix it ! I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013.
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